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Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 11.10.14-16

అథైషామ్ కర్మకర్తృణాం భోక్తృణాం సుఖదు:ఖయో: । నానాత్వమథ నిత్యత్వం లోకకాలాగమాత్మనామ్ ॥ ౧౪ ॥ మన్యసే సర్వభావానాం సంస్థా హ్యౌత్పత్తికీ యథా । తత్తదాకృతిభేదేన జాయతే భిద్యతే చ ధీ: ॥ ౧౫ ॥ ఏవమప్యఙ్గ సర్వేషాం దేహినాం దేహయోగత: । కాలావయవత: సన్తి భావా జన్మాదయోఽసకృత్ ॥ ౧౬ ॥
athaiṣām karma-kartṝṇāṁ
[athaishaam karma-kartreenaam]
bhoktṝṇāṁ sukha-duḥkhayoḥ
[bhoktreenaam sukha-duhkhayoh]
nānātvam atha nityatvaṁ
[naanaatvam atha nityatvam]
loka-kālāgamātmanām
[loka-kaalaagamaatmanaam]
manyase sarva-bhāvānāṁ
[manyase sarva-bhaavaanaam]
saṁsthā hy autpattikī yathā
[samsthaa hy autpattikee yathaa]
tat-tad-ākṛti-bhedena
[tat-tad-aakriti-bhedena]
jāyate bhidyate ca dhīḥ
[jaayate bhidyate cha dheeh]
evam apy aṅga sarveṣāṁ
[evam apy anga sarveshaam]
dehināṁ deha-yogataḥ
[dehinaam deha-yogatah]
kālāvayavataḥ santi
[kaalaavayavatah santi]
bhāvā janmādayo ’sakṛt
[bhaavaa janmaadayo ’sakrit]
atha — thus eṣām — of those karma — fruitive activities kartṝṇām — of the performers bhoktṝṇām — of the enjoyers sukha-duḥkhayoḥ — of happiness and distress nānātvam — variegatedness atha — moreover nityatvam — perpetual existence loka — of the materialistic world kāla — material time āgama — Vedic literatures recommending fruitive activities ātmanām — and the self manyase — if you think sarva — of all bhāvānām — material objects saṁsthā — the actual situation hi — certainly autpattikī — original yathā — as tat-tat — of all different objects ākṛti — of their forms bhedena — by the difference jāyate — is born bhidyate — and changes ca — also dhīḥ — intelligence or knowledge evam — thus api — even though aṅga — O Uddhava sarveṣām — of all dehinām — embodied beings deha-yogataḥ — by contact with a material body kāla — of time avayavataḥ — by the portions or limbs santi — there are bhāvāḥ — states of existence janma — birth ādayaḥ — and so on asakṛt — constantly.
Blended reading (Sanskrit + English inline)
athaiṣām karma-kartṝṇāṁ
atha
thus
bhoktṝṇāṁ sukha-duḥkhayoḥ
nānātvam atha nityatvaṁ
loka-kālāgamātmanām
manyase sarva-bhāvānāṁ
eṣām
of those
saṁsthā hy autpattikī yathā
tat-tad-ākṛti-bhedena
jāyate bhidyate ca dhīḥ
evam apy aṅga sarveṣāṁ
dehināṁ deha-yogataḥ
kālāvayavataḥ santi
karma
fruitive activities
kartṝṇām
of the performers
bhāvā janmādayo ’sakṛt
bhoktṝṇām
of the enjoyers
sukha-duḥkhayoḥ
of happiness and distress
nānātvam
variegatedness
atha
moreover
nityatvam
perpetual existence
loka
of the materialistic world
kāla
material time
āgama
Vedic literatures recommending fruitive activities
ātmanām
and the self
manyase
if you think
sarva
of all
bhāvānām
material objects
saṁsthā
the actual situation
hi
certainly
autpattikī
original
yathā
as
tat-tat
of all different objects
ākṛti
of their forms
bhedena
by the difference
jāyate
is born
bhidyate
and changes
ca
also
dhīḥ
intelligence or knowledge
evam
thus
api
even though
aṅga
O Uddhava
sarveṣām
of all
dehinām
embodied beings
deha-yogataḥ
by contact with a material body
kāla
of time
avayavataḥ
by the portions or limbs
santi
there are
bhāvāḥ
states of existence
janma
birth
ādayaḥ
and so on
asakṛt
constantly.
My dear Uddhava, I have thus explained to you perfect knowledge. There are philosophers, however, who challenge My conclusion. They state that the natural position of the living entity is to engage in fruitive activities, and they see him as the enjoyer of the happiness and unhappiness that accrue from his own work. According to this materialistic philosophy, the world, time, the revealed scriptures and the self are all variegated and eternal, existing as a perpetual flow of transformations. Knowledge, moreover, cannot be one or eternal, because it arises from the different and changing forms of objects; thus knowledge itself is always subject to change. Even if you accept such a philosophy, My dear Uddhava, there will still be perpetual birth, death, old age and disease, since all living entities must accept a material body subject to the influence of time.

In this verse, according to Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura, Lord Kṛṣṇa speaks the following to Uddhava. “My dear Uddhava, I have clearly established the actual goal of life in the instructions I have just imparted to you. There are those, however, who challenge My conclusion, especially the followers of Jaimini Kavi. If you are favorable to their understanding and thus do not accept My instructions, then kindly hear the following explanation.

“According to the followers of Jaimini, the living entity is originally and naturally a performer of fruitive activities, and his happiness and distress are derived from the fruits of his own work. The world in which the living entities find their enjoyment, the time during which they enjoy, the revealed scriptures that explain the means for achieving enjoyment, and the subtle bodies through which the living entities experience enjoyment all exist not only in manifold variety but also eternally.

“The living entity need not develop detachment from material sense gratification, either by seeing the temporariness of individual material objects and situations or by seeing the material world as an illusory creation ( māyā ). According to such materialistic philosophy, material objects such as garlands, sandalwood or beautiful women are temporary in specific manifestations but perpetually exist through the natural flow of creation and destruction. In other words, although a particular woman’s form is temporary, there will eternally be beautiful women within the material world. Thus, by carefully executing fruitive rituals according to religious scriptures, one can maintain enjoyable contact with women and wealth life after life. In this way one’s sense gratification will be eternal.

“The Jaimini philosophers further say that there never was a time when the world did not exist as it does today, which implies that there is no supreme controller who has created it. They claim that the arrangement of this world is real and appropriate and thus is not illusory. Moreover, they say that there is no eternal knowledge of an original perpetual form of the soul. In fact, they say, knowledge arises not from some absolute truth but from the differences among material objects. Knowledge therefore is not eternal and is subject to change. The assumption hidden in this statement is that there is no spirit soul who possesses eternal, constant knowledge of a single, unchanging reality. Rather, the nature of consciousness or knowledge is that it undergoes constant transformation. They state, however, that eternality is not refuted by the perpetually transforming nature of consciousness. Consciousness perpetually exists, they say, but not in the same form.

“Thus, the followers of Jaimini conclude that the transformation of knowledge does not negate its eternality; rather, they state that knowledge eternally exists within the perpetual nature of its transformation. They therefore naturally come to the path of regulated sense gratification rather than the path of renunciation, for in the state of mukti, or liberation, the living entity would not have any material senses, and thus the transformation of material understanding would not be possible. Such philosophers consider that the achievement of an unchanging state of mukti would stunt or paralyze the natural activity of the living entity and thus would not be in his self-interest. The path of nivṛtti (aiming toward renunciation and transcendence of the material world) is naturally not interesting to such materialistic philosophers. Accepting for argument’s sake the validity of such materialistic philosophy, one can easily demonstrate that the path of regulated sense gratification brings many unwanted and miserable results to the living entity. Therefore even from a materialistic viewpoint, detachment is desirable. Material time is divided into different sections such as days, weeks, months and years, and by material time the living entity is repeatedly forced to undergo the miseries of birth, death, old age and disease. That such real miseries occur everywhere throughout the universe is well known.” In this way, states Śrīla Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura, Lord Kṛṣṇa has pointed out the defect of materialistic philosophy to Uddhava.

We may further elaborate that if one falsely accepts the atheistic philosophy of Jaimini and his innumerable modern followers. then the living entity perpetually remains entangled in the anguish of birth, death, old age and disease. This bogus, atheistic philosophy encourages material gratification as the only logical goal of life, but the living entity will inevitably commit mistakes in the execution of regulated sense gratification and eventually go to hell. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Kṛṣṇa, personally tells Uddhava that this materialistic philosophy is false and irrelevant to the actual self-interest of the living entity.

— A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda
Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura Gauḍīya
Translation
O Uddhava! If you consider the varieties of places, time, scriptures and bodies, as well as the pleasure and pain achieved by the jīvas who perform karmas to be eternal, and consider all objects to be naturally permanent and real, with distinct forms and without a temporary nature, then repeated birth will still continue because all jīvas are connected with bodies and are subject to the divisions of time. If you protest, and take shelter of the followers of Jaimini who argue with the above conclusions, please listen to the truth. If you accept that the varieties of places, time, scriptures, bodies, happiness and suffering (the result of karmas) experienced by the jīvas are eternal, according to the followers of karma, then repeated birth will continue. The verb is in the third verse. The followers of Jaimini say that detachment is not possible. However, one should become detached since all the various places of enjoyment are temporary. The time of enjoyment, the scriptures which give the method for enjoyment and the body for enjoying are all temporary. But they maintain the opposite. They say these items are all eternal. They say that there can be no detachment from objects simply because of separation from the objects of enjoyment or because they are made of māyā. All objects like garlands, sandalwood and women are firmly established (saṁsthā) by their nature: they are eternal since they continually appear. They claim that the world will never perish. The world has no Lord. The world is substantial (yathā), not made of māyā. They say there is no eternal knowledge arising from ātmā. One becomes aware of differing forms like pot and cloth (tat tat). Thus knowledge itself is temporary, having a beginning, and is fragmented. In response to this, the deep meaning is this. The ātmā is not an eternal form of knowledge, but possesses a transformation of knowledge. But it is also not temporary though it undergoes transformation, for it is said vikriyā-jṣāna-rūpasya na nityatve virudhyate: there is no contradiction to the ātmā’s eternal nature even it is has changing knowledge. Enjoyment is better than renunciation because of the impossibility of change in the liberated state when one has no senses, and because of the consequent impossibility of attaining the highest goal by being totally inactive. In verse 16 however, the Lord emphasizes that the path of enjoyment is the cause of obstacles, in order to propose detachment.
Even if you accept the Jaiminīya view of eternal fruitive enjoyment, birth, death, old age, and disease still grind on — so detachment is rational, not optional.
Practical Applications
  • Name one "eternal enjoyment" you are quietly banking on (career arc, family setup, retirement) and admit today that birth-death-old-age-disease will still cut through it.
  • Refuse the modern Jaiminīya bargain — that careful regulation of sense gratification will deliver lasting happiness — and reorient one decision today toward Kṛṣṇa instead of toward refined enjoyment.
  • When you catch yourself treating knowledge as just a shifting response to changing objects, pause and reaffirm that your real self is the eternal knower behind the changes.
Reflection Questions
  • Which materialistic philosophy am I privately running on — that if I just regulate my enjoyments skillfully enough, the miseries of the body will not really touch me?
  • Where in my life have I already seen birth, aging, disease, or death overrule a plan I had treated as permanent, and what did I conclude from it?
For Each Age Group
youth
  • Notice the Jaiminīya assumption baked into your plans — that the right college, the right friend group, the right partner will deliver lasting happiness — and let this verse interrupt that story once today.
  • When peers or social media sell you a perfectly optimized life, remind yourself that aging and disease are not bugs in the system you can engineer around, and let that pull one decision toward Kṛṣṇa.
  • Refuse the idea that your shifting opinions and moods are your real self; sit quietly for a few minutes and locate the steady knower who has watched all of them come and go.
householder
  • Audit one major family or career plan you are treating as effectively permanent — house, savings arc, children's trajectory — and re-anchor it in the fact that birth-death-old-age-disease will still pass through it.
  • Speak honestly with your spouse this week about where your shared life is quietly built on "regulated enjoyment forever" and discuss one concrete way to reorient it toward Kṛṣṇa.
  • When raising children, do not sell them the Jaiminīya promise that careful planning yields lasting happiness; train them to expect the four miseries and to take shelter of Kṛṣṇa within their duties.
senior
  • Use your direct experience of aging and loss as evidence in your own contemplation that the materialistic philosophy Kṛṣṇa critiques here simply does not deliver, and let that conviction settle.
  • When mentoring younger family members, gently expose the Jaiminīya assumptions in their plans without crushing their enthusiasm, pointing them toward Kṛṣṇa as the actual shelter.
  • Loosen your grip on the arrangements you spent decades building — home, position, reputation — by daily reminding yourself that their permanence was always borrowed, and surrender each one to Kṛṣṇa.
Common Pitfalls
  • Treating Kṛṣṇa's argument as merely a debating point against ancient ritualists, instead of recognizing oneself as a modern follower of Jaimini in a new costume.
  • Using "detachment is rational" as cold philosophy and skipping the personal surrender to Kṛṣṇa that this whole instruction is pointing toward.
  • Concluding that since enjoyment is futile one should become passive and careless, rather than acting in regulated devotion under Kṛṣṇa's direction.
Discussion Prompts
  • Where do each of us, in practice, behave like followers of Jaimini — assuming regulated sense gratification will yield lasting happiness — even while professing bhakti?
  • Kṛṣṇa says even granting their philosophy, birth-death-old-age-disease remain; share a concrete situation where this argument actually shifted, or failed to shift, your own choices.
  • If knowledge is not merely a shifting response to changing objects, what does that mean for how we treat our opinions, our studies, and our certainties?
Role Play

One student plays a thoughtful, sincere modern materialist who argues that with good health systems, careful relationships, and disciplined finances, a person can build a genuinely happy life without bringing Kṛṣṇa into it. The other student, as a fellow practitioner — not a preacher — must respond from this verse: granting the whole framework, birth, death, old age, and disease still arrive, so what is actually being solved?

Objections & Responses
  • This is just Kṛṣṇa knocking down a strawman; no one today literally follows Jaimini, so the argument feels dated.
    The label is old; the philosophy is everywhere. Anyone who organizes life around regulated enjoyment — career, family, health, retirement — and treats that arrangement as effectively permanent is running Jaimini's program without the Sanskrit. Kṛṣṇa's point lands exactly on us.
  • Birth, death, old age, and disease are biological facts; calling them an argument for surrender feels like emotional manipulation.
    Kṛṣṇa is not using them to scare us; He is asking us to be consistent. If our philosophy of life cannot honestly account for the four miseries that everyone actually undergoes, then it is not realism — it is denial dressed up as pragmatism.
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