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Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 11.5.8

వదన్తి తేఽన్యోన్యముపాసితస్త్రియో గృహేషు మైథున్యపరేషు చాశిష: । యజన్త్యసృష్టాన్నవిధానదక్షిణం వృత్త్యై పరం ఘ్నన్తి పశూనతద్విద: ॥ ౮ ॥
vadanti te ’nyonyam upāsita-striyo
[vadanti te ’nyonyam upaasita-striyo]
gṛheṣu maithunya-pareṣu cāśiṣaḥ
[griheshu maithunya-pareshu chaashishah]
yajanty asṛṣṭānna-vidhāna-dakṣiṇaṁ
[yajanty asrishtaanna-vidhaana-dakshinam]
vṛttyai paraṁ ghnanti paśūn atad-vidaḥ
[vrittyai param ghnanti pashoon atad-vidah]
vadanti — speak te — they anyonyam — among each other upāsita-striyaḥ — who are engaged in worshiping women gṛheṣu — in their homes maithunya-pareṣu — which are dedicated to sex only ca — and āśiṣaḥ — blessings yajanti — they worship asṛṣṭa — without discharging anna-vidhāna — distribution of food dakṣiṇam — gifts in payment to the priests vṛttyai — for their own livelihood param — only ghnanti — they murder paśūn — animals atat-vidaḥ — in ignorance of the consequences of such behavior.
Blended reading (Sanskrit + English inline)
vadanti te ’nyonyam upāsita-striyo
vadanti
speak
te
they
gṛheṣu maithunya-pareṣu cāśiṣaḥ
yajanty asṛṣṭānna-vidhāna-dakṣiṇaṁ
anyonyam
among each other
upāsita-striyaḥ
who are engaged in worshiping women
gṛheṣu
in their homes
maithunya-pareṣu
which are dedicated to sex only
ca
and
āśiṣaḥ
blessings
vṛttyai paraṁ ghnanti paśūn atad-vidaḥ
yajanti
they worship
asṛṣṭa
without discharging
anna-vidhāna
distribution of food
dakṣiṇam
gifts in payment to the priests
vṛttyai
for their own livelihood
param
only
ghnanti
they murder
paśūn
animals
atat-vidaḥ
in ignorance of the consequences of such behavior.
The materialistic followers of Vedic rituals, giving up the worship of the Lord, instead practically worship their wives, and thus their homes become dedicated to sex life. Such materialistic householders encourage one another in such whimsical behavior. Understanding ritualistic sacrifice as a necessary item for bodily maintenance, they perform unauthorized ceremonies in which there is no distribution of foodstuffs or charity to the brāhmaṇas and other respectable persons. Instead, they cruelly slaughter animals such as goats without any understanding of the dark consequences of their activities.

False pride is certainly not complete without sex indulgence. Thus, lusty materialistic householders are not attracted to worshiping saintly persons, but rather worship their wives as a source of constant sex pleasure. The mentality of such condemned persons is described by the Lord Himself in Bhagavad-gītā (16.13):

idam adya mayā labdham imaṁ prāpsye manoratham idam astīdam api me bhaviṣyati punar dhanam

“So much wealth do I have today, and I will gain more according to my schemes. So much is mine now, and it will increase in the future, more and more.”

Generally, materialistic householders consider themselves to be very religious. In fact, by earning money to support a band of relatives they consider themselves to be more pious than the “irresponsible” sādhus, who do not struggle to maintain family members. Worshiping the material body, they are contemptuous of the humble brāhmaṇas, who are generally not very advanced in economic development. They consider such so-called beggars to be unworthy objects of charity and instead perform sacrifices only for the enhancement of the false prestige of their own family members. Madhvācārya has stated in this regard, upekṣya vai hariṁ te tu bhūtvā yājyāḥ patanty adhaḥ. In spite of proudly considering themselves to be great performers of religious ceremonies, those who neglect the Lord and His devotees certainly fall down. Such foolish persons sometimes bless each other by saying, “May you be blessed with the wealth of gorgeous flower garlands, sandalwood pulp and beautiful women.”

Men who are controlled by the nature of women become exactly like women. Materialistic women are uninterested in the devotional service of the Supreme Lord and strive for their own selfish happiness. Therefore they eagerly take service from their husbands and become most discouraged if the husband prefers to serve the Personality of Godhead. Being lost in such a fool’s paradise, both husband and wife mutually encourage each other in temporary happiness. They do not like to speak or hear about the pastimes of the Lord, but prefer to discuss their own families. Still, the devotees of the Lord, being mature in the mode of goodness, are always ready to act mercifully toward such conditioned souls, who are just like vain animals. When the devotees of the Lord preach that human beings should not slaughter animals, materialistic householders are very often astonished and inquire if it is actually possible to subsist on a vegetarian diet. Thus being completely ignorant of the material mode of goodness, what to speak of spiritual knowledge, such condemned materialists have no hope beyond the mercy of the devotees of the Lord.

— A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda
Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura Gauḍīya
Translation
Adoring women in their homes dedicated to sex life, they give each other blessings and perform sacrifice without distributing food or gifts, and kill animals to make a living, not being aware that it is sinful. They worship young women instead of great sages. They give each other blessings such as “May you have wealth, garlands, sandalwood and women!” In their houses sex life is the ultimate engagement. They perform sacrifices in which there is no distribution of food or donations. They kill goats in order to make a living without understanding that killing is wrong.
When the home becomes a shrine to sex and status instead of Kṛṣṇa, even "religious" acts harden into cruelty and self-deception.
Practical Applications
  • Audit one ritual or routine in your home this week and ask whether it is offered to Kṛṣṇa or to your own family's prestige.
  • Today, give a real share of cooked food or charity to a devotee or brāhmaṇa before spending on family luxuries.
  • Refuse to bless friends or be blessed in the currency of wealth, beauty, and pleasure; offer and request Kṛṣṇa-bhakti instead.
Reflection Questions
  • Where in my household life have I quietly replaced worship of Kṛṣṇa with worship of my spouse, children, or comforts?
  • Which of my "religious" or cultural observances are actually engineered to maintain my body, my image, and my pleasures?
For Each Age Group
youth
  • Notice when a romantic crush or relationship starts dictating your schedule, spending, and even your spiritual practice, and bring that pattern to a senior devotee this week.
  • Refuse to perform "spirituality" on social media as another way to attract a partner or impress peers; chant one round today that no one sees.
  • When friends bless you with wishes for money, looks, or hookups, gently flip it: ask them to wish you steady sādhana and good association instead.
householder
  • Sit with your spouse this week and re-examine your household budget: how much goes to family prestige versus to devotees, prasāda distribution, and śāstra?
  • Stop justifying overwork and overspending as "my duty to the family"; ask whether Kṛṣṇa is actually the center of the home, or only a decoration on its wall.
  • Invite a brāhmaṇa or sincere devotee to your home for a meal and honest conversation before you host the next big social function for relatives.
senior
  • Review the festivals and rituals you have led for decades and ask which ones still serve Kṛṣṇa and which have become engines of family ego.
  • Loosen your grip on being the "pious patriarch" or "pious matriarch"; let a younger devotee, even one without status, lead a kīrtana or class in your home.
  • Speak openly with your children and grandchildren about the difference between maintaining the body and serving the soul, so your legacy is bhakti, not just property and customs.
Common Pitfalls
  • Reading this verse as an attack on marriage itself, rather than on a home oriented around maithuna and false prestige.
  • Using it to look down on neighbors and relatives instead of examining one's own dīkṣā-less rituals and motives.
  • Assuming that because one is vegetarian or performs pūjā, one is automatically free of the atad-vidaḥ condition Śukadeva describes.
Discussion Prompts
  • Where is the line between honoring one's spouse and "worshiping" them in the sense this verse condemns — and how would you know you had crossed it?
  • What modern ceremonies (weddings, birthdays, housewarmings, festivals) most resemble the unauthorized sacrifices described here, and why?
  • Prabhupāda says materialistic householders consider themselves more pious than "irresponsible" sādhus; where do you catch that same logic running in your own mind?
Role Play

Two cousins are planning a lavish family function. One insists on an elaborate ritual with a hired priest, expensive gifts for in-laws, and a non-vegetarian feast "because it is our tradition." The other has just begun chanting and wants the money spent on prasāda distribution and inviting a Vaiṣṇava to speak. Play out the conversation, with a third student as a Gauḍīya teacher who steps in after five minutes.

Objections & Responses
  • Calling devotion to one's wife "worship of a woman" sounds misogynistic and outdated; surely loving one's spouse deeply is a virtue, not a fault.
    The verse does not condemn loving or honoring one's wife; it condemns making her — and the sex life she represents — the actual deity of the home in place of Kṛṣṇa. A Gauḍīya householder serves his wife and she serves him, but both together face Kṛṣṇa. When the couple instead faces only each other, affection becomes a closed loop of maithuna and mutual flattery, and that loop, however sweet, is what Śukadeva is exposing.
  • Animal sacrifice is ancient and was sanctioned in the Vedas; why does this verse treat these householders as cruel rather than orthodox?
    Śukadeva specifically calls them atad-vidaḥ — they do not know the purpose of the sacrifice. Vedic animal rites were tightly restricted, meant to gradually wean meat-eaters and to demonstrate the power of mantra, never to feed the performer's tongue or prestige. When the inner aim — pleasing Viṣṇu and uplifting the animal — is dropped, only the killing remains, and that is no longer yajña, it is butchery dressed in Sanskrit.
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